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    Bell and Ross movement question

    Hello!
    I recently purchased a Bell and Ross BR03-92 with steel case and black dial. I have had some trouble determining which movement is in my watch. When I purchased the watch I was told it was an ETA movement (2892). After doing some research I learned that depending on availability at the time of manufacture, it may also contain a Sellita SW300 movement. I am hoping there is an ETA movement in mine as it is considered a superior movement to the Sellita. I was told it is possible to track down the movement used in a particular watch by the serial number. BR03-92-S-17849 is my serial number. I would greatly appreciate it if you look up this info for me. Thanks.

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    Hi BRo,
    If it's a SS black, it should be an ETA.
    Only GH serie has SW300.
    Post up some pics please!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronofred View Post
    Hi BRo,
    If it's a SS black, it should be an ETA.
    Only GH serie has SW300.
    Post up some pics please!!
    The new 03 ceramic also have the SW300
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    You right Ju, thanks!!
    I Always forget the Cera...

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    Here she is

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    Thanks for the picture BRo!!
    ETA inside

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    What is the GH series? I am never sure about my 03 commando.


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    GH series :

    20130709_032204.jpg
    BR 02-92 Pro Dial
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    Golden Heritage

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    Then what is in my commando?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceKrig View Post
    Then what is in my commando?
    ETA, if it isn't a Ceramic...

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    It is not ceramic. Thanks for the info. Very happy about that.


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    Wondering if a Bell and Ross affiliate could confirm which BR03-92 models contain ETA vs Sellita vs Other?

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    AD must have all the specs of all the ranges imho....

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    Unfortunately, I purchased mine from an AD and they were unable to be more specific than "it should be an ETA movement and is likely a 2892". They searched through all the available company literature on hand and the specifics weren't listed. I find this a bit concerning as every higher end watch I have purchased has had this information readily available. The movement is not listed on the Bell and Ross website either. Honestly, if I pay several thousand dollars for a watch I expect to know what's under the hood.
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    Quite agree with you Bost0109. Usually, watchmakers don't advertise when their watches house "simples" Eta ou Sw...
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    Found through official resources that the watch does contain an ETA 2892 after the serial number was checked. It was confirmed that even within a particular model, that there are several movements that may be in it. I assume this may have to due with movement availability at the time of manufacture, but this is speculation. I will likely get another Bell and Ross at some point as I love many of the models, but I wish it was easier to find out up front what movement is in a specific watch before purchase as two seemingly identical watches may contain vastly different movements. Thoughts?

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    I always thought the SW300 is a direct clone of the ETA92.. Any movement experts care to confirm or deny?

    Personally, at this level, I don't mind. I have no idea if the movement in my 0392 Heritage is an ETA or a Sellita. Not sure it really matters at the end of the day. Mine does run a little fast and I suspect it was magnetized accidentally. Either way, I wouldn't let that compromise my enjoyment. Just my 0.02
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    It is true that the SW300 is almost a clone of the 2892 with very minor differences. There are also Japanese clones of ETA movements as well. The difference is mostly in the finished quality of each of the individual parts. Let's be honest, part of owning a Swiss luxury watch is the refinement, precision, and long-term durability of the movement. ETA has a long history and a good reputation. Other movement clones have been more popular recently only because ETA movement access has been restricted. The SW300 is a newer clone and may prove in the long run to be equally as reliable. I am just reluctant to be the guinea pig. When the SW200 movement came out, early versions had some problems. If you purchase a Bell and Ross mostly for aesthetics, it probably matters little, but half of my love for Many of these watchs produced is the quality of craftsmanship both inside an out. If it doesn't matter much, you can certainly find full Bell and Ross Watch clones for 200.00 that, as evidenced by "is my watch authentic" threads in these forums and probably be just as happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bost0109 View Post
    It is true that the SW300 is almost a clone of the 2892 with very minor differences. There are also Japanese clones of ETA movements as well. The difference is mostly in the finished quality of each of the individual parts. Let's be honest, part of owning a Swiss luxury watch is the refinement, precision, and long-term durability of the movement. ETA has a long history and a good reputation. Other movement clones have been more popular recently only because ETA movement access has been restricted. The SW300 is a newer clone and may prove in the long run to be equally as reliable. I am just reluctant to be the guinea pig. When the SW200 movement came out, early versions had some problems. If you purchase a Bell and Ross mostly for aesthetics, it probably matters little, but half of my love for Many of these watchs produced is the quality of craftsmanship both inside an out. If it doesn't matter much, you can certainly find full Bell and Ross Watch clones for 200.00 that, as evidenced by "is my watch authentic" threads in these forums and probably be just as happy.
    Well said and I agree. I would ask B&R for a bit more transparency as to exactly what movements are inside, and brought this up at the most recent NYC dinner event. I think that would be beneficial to both them as a manufacturer and to us as collectors and consumers. People want to know what they're getting and I think lends to the credibility of the brand.
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